By Genoa Barrow | OBSERVER Senior Staff Writer

It was more than four decades ago, but having a police officer point a gun in your face isnโt something youโre likely to forget.
The year was 1979. Danise Payne was a professional clown traveling with Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circusโ red unit, but there would be no water or colorful handkerchief shooting out of the pistol signaling that it was a joke. This was no laughing matter. Payne recalls sitting in the stands of the big top arena in Jacksonville, Florida, on her lunch break. With popcorn and peanut shells from a previous audience scattered about, she found herself facing a White, racist officer. He was hellbent on intimidating her, accusing her of being there to steal.
โHe cocked the gun,โ she said. โThree seconds later, I would have been a dead clown standing up there. I put my hands up and I went down the steps and I left him standing up there with his gun cocked at me.โ
Payne shares this harrowing experience and other more joyous ones in her memoir, โElbows in My Ear: My Life with Little People, Tigers, and Wardrobe Trunks.โ She sat down with The OBSERVER from her Las Vegas home to talk about her years on the road and being living Black history.
Payne was one of the first and still is one of few Black women to work as a professional clown at the highest level. She graduated from Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Clown College in 1978 and toured with the red and blue units. She has performed with five circuses, including the Black-owned UniverSoul Big Top Circus.
She got her start at Sacramentoโs Fairytale Town amusement park, where she performed as a ventriloquistโs dummy, aided in birthday parties and took care of animals. A visitor noticed Payneโs animated facial expressions and suggested clown college.
Payne, then 24, envisioned a career as a dramatic, big-screen actress. โI was going to take Cicely Tysonโs place. Thatโs how good I thought I was. Which I was not,โ she joked.
She auditioned at the Oakland Coliseum, got the job and the rest is history, literally.
Payne is also proud of being part of something special in joining a diverse group of performers who got to travel the world, spreading joy and wonder.
โWeโre a different kind of people, the circus people,โ she said. โI wish the world were sort of like that. We accept each other, whereas outside the perimeter of the circus, not so much, because thatโs where the racism came in.โ

Performing with the UniverSoul Circus is a highlight for Payne. The one-ring circus had its first show in 1994 in its birthplace, Atlanta. โPeople had never heard of such a thing as an all-Black circus owned by a Black man. We came out of the woodwork,โ she said of the communityโs support. โWe were sold out everywhere we went. Iโm standing there and Iโm looking at people that reflected me. Donโt let anybody tell you clown makeup doesnโt run. I started tearing up because Iโve never seen anything like that. It was like being a canister on the Fourth of July. It just exploded my heart, it was just unbelievable.โ
Payne remembers the reaction when they arrived in Harlem, New York, for the first time: โThe owner said [we were] just going to march down 125th Street, elephants and all.โ
Word got out and the response was phenomenal, Payne said. โPeople came out of those brownstones, they heard the elephants and they heard our music and saw us walking down there and riding unicycles.โ
Payne got off her unicycle and approached a group of young African American girls sitting on a stoop.
โThey had never seen a Black woman clown before,โ she recalled. โI walked up to those girls and they almost tore my jacket off, they reached up and just wanted to touch me, someone that looked like them.
โIn my 25 years, that was one of two moving moments for me to be recognized for who I am and as part of our community.โ
The other defining moment came while performing in Gerry Cottleโs Circus in England, during a visit to a small, predominantly White school. Payne was the first Black woman clown to perform there. She heard a heavily accented voice call out the name of her character.
โI look over and I see one little Black girl sitting there. She was the only Black kid in about 300 kids. I went over to her, I bent down and said, โYes?โ and she said, โIโm brown too.โ I knew that I had reached who I wanted to reach.โ
The incident choked Payne up.
โIt just means so much. The purpose of being a clown is to reach our community, wherever we are, whether weโre in England or whether weโre in Australia, or here, everywhere around the United States and Canada,โ she said. โThat means a lot to me to be able to touch these kids and adults that are there.โ
The love of it all has kept Payne at it. The glitz and glamor are just a part of it.
โJust to see peopleโs reaction and all that negativity disappearing from them and the recognition you get from the audience, thanking you for letting them forget for those two hours,โ Payne said.
The veteran clown looked to inspire new generations operating her own clown school in Las Vegas for a number of years. She taught beyond the basics.
โEverything that I did was motivational, that โYes, if I can be a successful circus clown, you can be a rocket scientist. You can be a teacher, you can do whatever you want to do,โ Payne said. โThe year that I was doing that, Barack Obama, for the first time, was running to become president. I used that also to say, โIf I can be a successful circus clown and Barack Obama could become president, you can do such and such.โ All of that was intertwined with learning how to juggle and how to do the different skits [that] we call gags.โ
There are clown colleges in every state, Payne said, but there remain few Blacks in the business.

โI wish that there were Black kids learning our craft, learning how to ride unicycles and juggling. I wish that there were because I would love to pass that on and to pass the torch on to someone that could continue that because the circus isn’t dying; itโs actually getting stronger.โ
Today Payne is focused on promoting her book.
โPeople donโt know that Blacks were out there in the circuses. I decided I want to write this book because I love my story. I love my life. Itโs a good life,โ Payne said.
โItโs really fun. Itโs hard; we worked 18 hours a day, every circus, 18 hours a day. Most of the time we would work six days a week, two shows and three shows on weekends. You know within a week if you can make it through the circus world because of that schedule. I loved it. Absolutely.โ
Payne has advice for others, whether they have sights on being a clown, an acrobat, lion tamer, ringmaster or any other career that puts them in the spotlight.
โBe true to yourself, thatโs the best advice,โ she said. โDonโt listen to naysayers. I had so many naysayers, saying you canโt do this, you canโt do that. โYouโre too shy.โ โYouโre too dark.โ โThereโs no such thing as a Black girl clown.โ I had all of this coming at me.โ
She pushed all that aside and stepped into her destiny. โI have a saying that I always had the kids say at my workshops that goes like, โI am somebody, I can do anything. I wonโt let anybody steal my dream because I am somebody every day.โ
โNothingโs impossible to us. People will try to tell you that it is, but nothing is impossible to us as a people.โ
โElbows in My Earsโ is available on Amazon.com and Barnes and Noble. For more on Payne, visit her website, www.danisepayne.com.
